Customer service is the new marketing. Finally. After all the billions spent on pretty ads and colorful websites, after the hours spent on free social media sites, making friends with folks you haven’t spoke with since what...grade school? (And we remember the reasons for that...) after getting lean and six sigma’d...we remember the C words in business:
- Customers.
- Customers bring Cash.
- Customers bring Cash and other Customers... if we serve them.
Otherwise, a business is just a...Commodity.
Ultimately the only way to compete is to...Provide Wildly Wonderful Customer Service.
How do you serve customers?
I think it’s relatively simple. Make the customer happy.
How tough is that? Judging from our economy, very. Despite the tens of thousands of books on customer service, most businesses see it as very tough.
Fortunately, we have Jeanne Bliss. Jeanne Bliss is a passionate proponent of well, customers and providing for their bliss. In fact, the URL for her website is www.customerbliss.com.
And she’s just written a great, great, book titled I Love You More than My Dog: 5 Decisions That Drive Extreme Customer Loyalty in Good Times and Bad. (And she’s provided me with 10 copies to give away free for anyone. Let me know you want one in the comments here, include your email (kept private) I’ll send you yours.)
It is one of the best books on customer service, well, business really, I’ve read.
She was a guest recently on my radio show. We talked about serving customers, her book and the 5 decisions your business needs to make to better serve your customers, case studies of companies who have made those decisions, how she helps companies...and more. You can listen in streaming on-demand at this link.Your book is the best. Seriously. But I have a complaint. It’s too easy to put down. In fact, I’m compelled to put it down to either note what you’ve written, or start scribbling in my notebook or writing a post from all the examples and anecdotes and research you’ve included. I’ve read it every day for 2-3 weeks and I’ve covered maybe 25 pages.
Now. Let’s talk about the title. I LOVE it. How and why did you come up with that title?
My book's publishers at Portfolio are masters at titling. I was thinking of boring things and they gave me the title.
Erika Andersen, in her book Being Strategic, coined the phrase reasonable aspiration or hoped-for goal. What was your reasonable aspiration or hoped-for goal in writing this book?What I wanted to show was what goes on behind the scenes what enables these companies when there is a fork in the road to move in the direction of their employees and customers and what makes them beloved.
I think the word beloved is very powerful. They are loved for who they are. They are a force in their customer’s lives. They cannot imagine their life without them or their employees. They make purposeful decisions to get there.
I wanted to show readers that you too can get there. It is about how you direct your decisions. You have a choice. People become what they become because they are not united. There is not a clear lens to which decisions are made.
Companies don’t know what pushes the customer’s YES button. It is discipline, process and delivery. It is not a casual thing. Successful companies, companies I profiled, will stay up at night working on the YES button for their customers.
If you haven’t been there in a company like this, you may not understand it. It is very elusive. My intent here was to get behind the elusiveness.
Where is the gap that makes it so elusive?
It comes from 2 things.
In a large company it is the agenda. They all have their own score cards to do their own thing. Executing on a particular discipline – their own goals, sometimes it happens accidentally.
The second thing is that we are quarterly inclined and we can’t see past the goal to understand that many of these decisions that will earn the right long term to be beloved and being prosperous, won’t happen in a quarter.
The lack of the ability to be patient gets in our way.
I hate customer personas as a tool. But, what’s the perfect reader persona for your book?
I think anybody in a company can find a voice in the book. It is not a one size fits all. It is a personal journey. The decisions are about how to conduct yourself as an individual and as a collection of individuals to represent yourself to your customers and employees who you are and what you value.
I’d say anyone who cares to find a simple, true, sustainable strategy that’s cash-flow friendly...should read this book. Titles are irrelevant.
Are customers really, really, loyal any more?
I think they are loyal to the brands that are loyal to them in the way they conduct their business, in the way they honor their customer, in the way they understand their customer’s lives and the way they honor their employees.
What is on the inside shows up on the outside and customer’s have a great 6th sense and can sniff out impostors.
It is about the personalization about the company. You must create that personal connection and this is earned!! Your customers are the ones that will speak for you.
The honesty and integrity of the customer’s words are what is important and what is happening today.
Why don’t companies listen to their customers?
I think that the customers going out on the internet today is important and when they rant, that is related to revenue. Each of those rants is a lot of revenue – either come here or not to the business.
They may be listening but making the process and the changes are much harder than people expect. We need a collaborative environment to solve problems. Small and medium businesses can do this. It is difficult for larger companies.
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We are so wired to solute the flag of our score card that it gets in the way of putting some of those things aside to solve the real problem.
What are the 5 decisions that drive extreme customer loyalty in good times and bad?
1. Decide to Believe. Believe in your customers and your employees.
2. Decide with Clarity of Purpose. What is your company's purpose? Does it live consistently across your company.
3. Decide to Be Real. Do you connect your personal self with your business self?
4. Decide to Be There. Are your there for your customers and employees on their terms?
5. Decide to Say "Sorry". Apologizing well is an important peace process between companies and their customers.
What is the best case study for Decide to Believe?The one for a small bicycle shop in connecticut, Zane's Cycles. They decided to believe their customers who come in the door that they have never seen before and want to take a bike for a test drive. They have bikes for $6,000 each. You can take this bike out for a test ride with no collateral. And out of 4,000 bikes sold each year, only 5 are stolen. That religion of believing permeates the business. They know this buyer will spend over $12K over their lifetime. They sell $13 million each year. Their annual growth rate is over 20% for the past 25 years.
What is the best example of Decide with Clarity.
Griffin Hospital in CT. They are a small regional hospital in CT. About 15 years or so ago, they were the hospital that most families and patients would avoid. They committed to change –to create an experience to change what they wanted to deliver. They had such great clarity on creating an embracing experience to hug their patients and families. They have had enormous financial results. Their growth rate is 3 times the rate of other CT hospitals.
What made Griffin Hospital wake up?
They realized that no one wanted to go back there, people were avoiding them. They had an event. That event was that fewer and fewer customers were coming in. Surveys, comments and patients who did not come back, told them.
Where in our corporate lives did we decide to be someone we are not?
I think it starts back in English class when we are taught how to write a corporate letter.
I think it is the corporate ego!! We get so busy and let it go the way of the generic cut and paste, not thinking of what our personality is.
How many companies really do have a personality? One that we know? We gravitate too?
We are not robots. Each of these 5 decisions goes back to clarity. If you are clear on what your higher purpose is and what your personality is, you have a much clearer idea when you go out and select employees to be part of your company. You need to know these things. It is not just filling a slot.
Each of these decisions seems fairly straight forward and obvious. For small business, definitely. Why and how does it become so complicated?I think I have a 2-step plan for businesses to find their way home.
Obviously, the first step is get a copy and read your book. Ok. Check. You’ve done that with your offer of free copies.
But now they’re paralyzed by even a choice of 5 decisions.
So, the second step is which decision is the most important. If they can only execute one, and execute it really well, which is the one?
You need to believe. Belief is the cornerstone of these companies. By deciding to believe, they free their employees from the extra rules and inability to think on their feet, which translates directly to customers. It is fundamental to becoming beloved and prosperous.
Many customers feel as though the companies are holding something back. You need to suspend the cynicism and believe in both your employees and your customer. The key: believing and enabling belief, then create an environment of belief.
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Trader Joe’s. You profile them in your book and you wrote a great blog post about them as well. What do they do that inspires such admiration in you and devotion by their fans?
They are an adventure in eating!! They create an experience for the customer. They obsess about each moment of interaction with the customer. They want to leave you with a great memory before you leave the store.
That tiny step of trying to remove the pinging noise in the checkout lines is so simple, yet so important. Why? Why’s it reflect Trader Joe’s commitment to customers?
This is about clarity and the purpose in your customer’s lives and what you want to mean to them, it drives that obsession. You want to remove any and every thing that interferes with the customer experience. The pinging sound interrupted customers talking with each other.
ROI. Let’s talk about return on investment from these decisions. It’s pretty high isn’t it?
Most of the company’s revenue in the book did not go down in 2008. Many of them grew in this apocalyptic time.
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One thing I noticed is the relative modest amounts of cash required with any of these decisions. And when that amount is compared to an ad campaign...
Many of these companies grow organically and do very simple things to show they care, are interested and believe. It is not about chasing the silver bullet – it is about hard work.
Speaking of bright and shiny, what’s your thoughts on the elephant in the room, social media. What’s its role in providing customer service?
This is the newest thing – it is important. You must understand what is ailing them and what they need. You need to listen to them in a natural way. You must realize you must earn the rave.
Listening to customer feedback includes a variety of things: surveys.
You have employees who are talking to customers: believe what they say.
Then combine that with the stuff your customers are telling you in Social Media, in a real time simple way to fix what is broken, as well as giving you cues of where to take your experience to the next level.
It is part of an overall strategy. You must believe in the words of your customers.
It is not a campaign; it is a place for a trusted conversation. If you believe your employees and your customers, they will believe that you are open to speaking with them.
Let’s say we talk again next year. I hope we do. What will be the biggest sign that businesses have come out of their own wilderness to find customers waiting loyally for their return?I think it is these:
Customers are talking about you in a positive manner; you will know about it in many forms of media, not just social media.
Customers are going to be purchasing more. You will see less turnover in your business if you do these things.
Customers will become the army that grows your business.
Where can people follow you on the web?
* Website
Thanks, Jeanne!




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